This is just one family's experience, trying to buy a Wrangler just the way we want it. Take it with a grain of salt, or a quart of oil. It's just our experience, emotions and opinions.
Tuesday, October 19, 2010
Update
I called Chrysler yesterday for an update on the build status of our Jeep. It took some time, but the guy was able to tell me that it's in the system and has an estimated ship date of January 1st (Isn't that a holiday?). Folks at the Jeep forums think the color and/or the half doors are making it take longer than it should. At least we'll be able to save more for the down payment (and wheels & tires, and other upgrades...). We wait for 1/1/11...
Wednesday, October 13, 2010
D Status
Today was allocation day at our dealer. I got an email saying our Jeep is being built!! We are in "D Status", which I guess means scheduled and we also have a VIN number.
Also, we've joined TreadLightly.org, which is supposed to give us a price that's 1% below invoice and a $100 rebate on new Goodyear tires.
Also, we've joined TreadLightly.org, which is supposed to give us a price that's 1% below invoice and a $100 rebate on new Goodyear tires.
Saturday, October 9, 2010
Be a Sport
Just got back from our dealer. They're going to order us a Sport this week. We added half doors (of course), the tow group (which changes the rear axle to 3.73), the Infinity speakers, and the limited slip rear differential. It's going to be about $7000 cheaper than the Rubicon. The things we're going to get asap are the heated seats, a GPS unit (I think the Garmin Nuvi 550, which is waterproof and rugged, so I can take it snowmobiling), and better wheels and tires. The wheels and tires are pretty cheesy, only 16", but they'll do for now.
Of all the stuff we wanted, we got the two most important things, and the things that would have been the most expensive to do after: the Bright White and the half doors. Everything else is either doable after we get it, or not important. Thinking back, we kinda talked ourselves into the Rubicon, using the old line, "ah, we're getting a new car let's do it up right, what's another couple thousand?" In a way I'm glad we weren't able to order the Rubicon when we wanted to, the extra time has helped us make a better decision. And now it'll be easier to pay it off early.
The sales manager said he'd be able to order it Wednesday the 13th, and if we're lucky we'll have it for Christmas. He's going to call us with the VON (vehicle order number) and then I should be able to track the progress.
Until then I can finish researching the GPS and start looking at wheels and tires.
Of all the stuff we wanted, we got the two most important things, and the things that would have been the most expensive to do after: the Bright White and the half doors. Everything else is either doable after we get it, or not important. Thinking back, we kinda talked ourselves into the Rubicon, using the old line, "ah, we're getting a new car let's do it up right, what's another couple thousand?" In a way I'm glad we weren't able to order the Rubicon when we wanted to, the extra time has helped us make a better decision. And now it'll be easier to pay it off early.
The sales manager said he'd be able to order it Wednesday the 13th, and if we're lucky we'll have it for Christmas. He's going to call us with the VON (vehicle order number) and then I should be able to track the progress.
Until then I can finish researching the GPS and start looking at wheels and tires.
Friday, October 8, 2010
Our Prerogative
We've (I've) changed our minds. We now want the Sport with the 1/2 doors, built up as much as we can. We want to add the factory tow group, which also changes the rear end to 3.73, the Trac-Lok limited slip rear diff, and the Infinity speakers w/subwoofer. This way we get most of what we want. The stuff we can't get is mostly serious off-road equipment.
So we now think we want the Sport. Let's face it, we're not going to seriously off-road a 35k vehicle, and we can do a lot of upgrades for the eight thousand dollar difference (like buy a whole 'nother car!).
Sport | Rubicon | |
3.8-Liter V6 SMPI Engine | ||
6-Speed Manual Transmission | ||
Command-Trac® Shift-on-the-Fly 4WD System | 4:1 Rock-Trac® Part-Time 4WD System | |
(can upgrade to limited slip rear diff $295) | Tru-Lok® Electronic Locking Frnt/Rear Differentials | |
Electronic Stability Control | ||
Media Center 130 CD/MP3 | Media Center 130 CD/MP3 (we'd upgrade 1) | |
>> | SIRIUS Satellite Radio w/ 1-Yr Radio Subscription | |
6 Speakers (upgrade to 368W 7-Spkr Infinity w/sub - $395) | 368W 7-Speaker Infinity® Sound Sys Incl Subwoofer | |
Steering Wheel-Mounted Audio Controls | ||
Cloth Seats with Adjustable Head Restraints | ||
16-Inch Styled Steel Wheels | >> | 17-Inch Aluminum Wheels Painted Satin Carbon |
P225/75R16 BSW On/Off-Road Tires | > | LT255/75R17 BSW Off-Road Tires |
Matching Spare Wheel | ||
Full-Size Spare Tire | ||
Next Generation Dana® 30 Solid Front Axle | > | Next Generation Dana® 44 Heavy Duty Front Axle |
Next Generation Dana® 44 Heavy Duty Rear Axle | ||
Full Mtl Drs w/ Roll-up Wind (replace w/Half Doors & Locks) | <<<<< | Full Metal Doors with Roll-up Windows |
Sunrider® Soft Top | ||
> | Remote Keyless Entry | |
Air Conditioning | ||
(would want to have one put in) | >> | Security Alarm |
> | Rock Rails | |
Speed Control | ||
>? | Performance Suspension | |
> | Elctrnc Frt Sway Bar Dscnnct (for serious off-road) | |
> | 115-Volt Auxiliary pwr Outlet | |
Leather-Wrapped Steering Wheel | ||
Mileage 15 city/19 hwy | ||
Jeep Badge | ||
Sport Badge | Rubicon Badge | |
Trail Rated Badge | ||
Wrangler Unlimited Badge | ||
100-MPH Speedometer | ||
140-Amp Alternator | ||
22.5-Gallon Fuel Tank | ||
4-Wheel Disc Anti-Lock Brakes | ||
600-Amp Maintenance-Free Battery | ||
Accent-Color Fender Flares | ||
Automatic Headlamps | ||
Auxiliary 12-Volt pwr Outlet | ||
Base Interior Accents | ||
Black Front Bumper | ||
Black Front Frame Overlay | ||
Black Rear Bumper | ||
Body-Color Grille | ||
Bright Interior Accents | ||
Bucket Seats with Adjustable Head Restraints | ||
Cargo Compartment Floor Mat | ||
Cargo Tie-Down Loops | ||
Center High-Mount Stop Lamp | ||
Chrome / Leather-Wrapped Shift Knob | ||
Easy-Folding Soft Top | ||
Electronic Roll Mitigation | ||
Fog Lamps | ||
Front and Rear Floor Mats | ||
Front Axle Differential | ||
Front Dome with On/Off Switch Lamp | ||
Front Passenger Seat Belt Alert | ||
Front Seat Area Carpet | ||
Front Seat Back Map Pockets | ||
Front Stabilizer Bar | ||
Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield | ||
Full-Length Floor Console | ||
Halogen Headlamps | ||
Height-Adjustable Driver's Seat | ||
Hill Start Assist | ||
> | Hood Insulation | |
Hydraulic Brake Assist | ||
Instrument Panel Parts Module | ||
Leather-Wrapped Steering Wheel | ||
Locking Glove Box | ||
Non-Locking Fuel Filler Cap | ||
Normal-Duty Suspension | >? | Performance Suspension |
Power Steering | ||
Premium Instrument Cluster with Tachometer | ||
Protective Coating and Remover | ||
Rear 60 / 40 Split Folding Seat | ||
Rear Compartment Covered Storage | ||
Rear Dome Lamp with On/Off Switch | ||
> | Rear Passenger Assist Handles | |
Rear Stabilizer Bar | ||
Rear-Seat / Wheelhouse / Cargo Carpet | ||
Rear-Seat Adjustable Head Restraints | ||
Rearview Day / Night Mirror | ||
Reclining Front Seats | ||
Sentry Key® Theft Deterrent System | ||
Single Low Note Horn | ||
Sliding Sun Visors with Mirrors | ||
Speed Control (out with 1/2 doors?) | Speed Control | |
Sport Bar with Full Padding | ||
Storage Tray | ||
Temperature and Compass Gauge | ||
Tethered Fuel Filler Cap | ||
Tilt Steering Column | ||
Tinted Front Door Glass (not with half doors) | Tinted Front Door Glass | |
Tire and Wheel Parts Module | ||
Tire Pressure Monitor with Warning Lamp | ||
Traction Control | ||
Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield | ||
Two Front Tow Hooks and One Rear Tow Hook | ||
Variable Intermittent Windshield Wipers (out with half doors?) | Variable Intermittent Windshield Wipers | |
Vinyl Shift Knob | ||
Monotone Paint | ||
> | Deep Tint Sunscreen Windows | |
Tinted Windshield Glass | ||
Mirrors | ||
Manual Fold-Away Mirrors | pwr Heated Mirrors | |
Audio Jack Input for Mobile Devices | ||
Fixed Long Mast Antenna | ||
Advanced Multistage Front Airbags | ||
Manual Locks | pwr Locks | |
Manual Windows | pwr Windows with Front One-Touch-Down Feature | |
grnd clrnce - at curb wgt - Approach Angle - 40.6 | > | grnd clrnce - at curb wgt - Approach Angle - 44.4 |
grnd clrnce - at curb wgt - Breakover Angle - 17.8 | > | grnd clrnce - at curb wgt - Breakover Angle - 20.8 |
grnd clrnce - at curb wgt - Departure Angle - 37.5 | > | grnd clrnce - at curb wgt - Departure Angle- 40.5 |
grnd clrnce - at curb wgt - Running grnd clrnce - 8.7 | > | grnd clrnce - at curb wgt - Running grnd clrnce - 10.1 |
Overall Body Width - 82.8 | ||
Overall Height - Hard Top - 70.8 | Overall Height - 72.1 | |
Overall Length- 183.7 | Overall Length - 184.4 | |
Overhang - Front - 28.3 | ||
Overhang - Rear - 39.4 | ||
Track - Front - 61.9 | ||
Track - Rear - 61.9 | ||
Turning Diameter - curb-to-curb - Left - 41.2 | ||
Turning Diameter - curb-to-curb - Right - 41.2 | ||
Wheelbase - 116 | ||
Cargo Capacity - Behind 2nd Row Seat - 46.4 | ||
Cargo Capacity - Behind Front Seat - 82 | ||
Head Room - Front - 41.3 | ||
Head Room - Rear - 40.4 | ||
Hip Room - Front - 55.6 | ||
Hip Room - Rear - 56.7 | ||
Leg Room - Front - 41 | ||
Leg Room - Rear - 37.2 | ||
Passenger Interior Volume - 103.9 | ||
Seating Capacity - Maximum Seating - 5 | ||
Seating Capacity - Standard Seating - 5 | ||
Shoulder Room - Front - 55.8 | ||
Shoulder Room - Rear - 56.8 | ||
Trunk Lift-Over Height - 31.4 | Trunk Lift-Over Height - 32.9 | |
Base Curb wgt - Automatic Trans - 4203 | Base Curb wgt - Automatic Trans - 4442 | |
Base Curb wgt - Manual Trans - 4180 | Base Curb wgt - Manual Trans - 4419 | |
Fuel Tank Capacity - 21.6 | ||
Gross Vehicle wgt Rating (GVWR) - Maximum - 5400 | Gross Vehicle wgt Rating (GVWR) - Maximum - 5500 | |
Gross Vehicle wgt Rating (GVWR) - Standard - 5300 | Gross Vehicle wgt Rating (GVWR) - Standard - 5448 | |
Payload Capacity - Standard - 1220 | Payload Capacity - Standard - 1081 | |
Towing Capacity - Maximum - 3500 | Towing Capacity - Maximum - 3500 | |
wgt Distribution - Automatic Trans - Front - 50 | wgt Distribution - Automatic Trans - Front - 49 | |
wgt Distribution - Automatic Trans - Rear - 50 | wgt Distribution - Automatic Trans - Rear - 51 | |
wgt Distribution - Manual Trans - Front- 50 | wgt Distribution - Manual Trans - Front - 49 | |
wgt Distribution - Manual Trans - Rear - 50 | wgt Distribution - Manual Trans - Rear - 51 | |
$27305 (MSRP) | <<<<<<< | $35050 (MSRP, includes heated seats & MyGig) |
Options We'd Get: | ||
can't get factory, but Mopar has for $300 + install | heated seats | |
can get standalong Nav & HD or use flash drive | 1better radio with Nav & HD |
So we now think we want the Sport. Let's face it, we're not going to seriously off-road a 35k vehicle, and we can do a lot of upgrades for the eight thousand dollar difference (like buy a whole 'nother car!).
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